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Oswald Glinkmeyer  
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 More options Jul 29 2006, 11:38 am
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From: Oswald Glinkmeyer <glink2...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:38:14 GMT
Local: Sat, Jul 29 2006 11:38 am
Subject: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...
I got really nasty with Amazon back in 2000.  They continually ignored my
requests to opt-out of all of their daily advertising, even though I hadn't
ordered from them since 1998.  Their excuse was always something like,
"we'll you're still a customer of ours, so we need to send you account
updates..." Hmmm.  Their account updates were always suspiciously
advertising-looking with What's Hot, who's the newest author with a new
release, Amazon now sells pants as well as books and garden tools.  Sheeze.

In September 2000, Amazon announced that they considered their customer
list to be their own property and would be sold to any buyer should the
company be sold or split up or whatever.  That was the last straw,
especially since I no longer considered myself to be a customer.  I wrote
to them in both email and snail mail telling them I no longer was a
customer of theirs and to complete remove me from their database.  They
said they did.  Now, six years later, they've "magically" found my email
address and decided to email me a spam entitled "Amazon.com recommends Lord
of the Flies and more" which you will see shortly in NANAS.  Stop spamming
me for six years then hope I don't notice when you start again!  

No wonder it's so easy to Google "spamazon" in this group.


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DGDevin  
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 More options Jul 29 2006, 11:51 am
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From: "DGDevin" <dgde...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:51:20 GMT
Local: Sat, Jul 29 2006 11:51 am
Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...
"Oswald Glinkmeyer" <glink2...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:Xns980EBD9442692glinkglink2006@69.28.186.121...

>I got really nasty with Amazon back in 2000.  They continually ignored my
> requests to opt-out of all of their daily advertising, even though I
> hadn't
> ordered from them since 1998.

[snip]

I don't know how or why, but I've never been spammed by Amazon directly,
although I've repeatedly been spammed by their "affiliates"--companies which
sell via Amazon.  Happily there is a fun way to get payback on these folks,
namely by leaving feedback on Amazon's own website, which has several ways
in which an unhappy customer can rip up an affiliate.  You can review a
product and mention the vendor uses spam, you can rate the vendor directly
and do the same, and there are now discussion threads attached to many
products where you can let your feelings be known.  One such company was so
upset by my actually quite mild objections to their spam in my vendor rating
that the president of the company repeatedly contacted me and asked for the
rating to be removed, I declined.  A few months later they sent me more
spam, so now their product review has a lengthly description of their
marketing practices as well.  With any luck that has lost them a few sales.
;^)


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Roger Bryant  
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 More options Jul 29 2006, 12:41 pm
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From: Roger Bryant <roger_bry...@spamblocked.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:41:25 -0700
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Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...
Thusly, it was spoken by the voices from within Oswald Glinkmeyer's head
on 7/28/2006 4:38 PM:

I, too, was a spamazon customer at one time.  An email to customer
service with the phrase 'boulder pledge invoked'  actually got them to stop.

--
Test, Jamie, Test.
Just remember:  It's the shiny side out.


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Jessie C  
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 More options Jul 29 2006, 12:50 pm
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From: Jessie C <mun...@nospam.invalid>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:50:07 -0700
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Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:38:14 +0000, Oswald Glinkmeyer wrote:
> Stop spamming
> me for six years then hope I don't notice when you start again!  

> No wonder it's so easy to Google "spamazon" in this group.

Once a spammer, always a spammer.

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Buss Error  
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 More options Jul 29 2006, 4:34 pm
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From: Buss Error <buss_er...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:34:11 -0500
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Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:38:14 GMT, Oswald Glinkmeyer

<glink2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I got really nasty with Amazon back in 2000.  They continually ignored my
>requests to opt-out of all of their daily advertising, even though I hadn't
>ordered from them since 1998.  

snip

I haven't bought anything through Spam-a-zon since 1998 myself.

I gave them a tagged email addres, and at the second spam, I removed
the alias from my mail server.

I, too, got somewhat snooty with Amazon. However, all I got was "we
have a right to spam you, and we will." kind of attitude.

Barnes and Noble had somewhat the same attitued for a while, but it
would seem they learned better. I don't get spam from BN.

YMMV.


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Chris U  
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 More options Jul 29 2006, 5:52 pm
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From: Chris U <pressedpork.animal.spamt...@nojunk.blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 05:52:25 GMT
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Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:38:14 GMT, Oswald Glinkmeyer

<glink2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In September 2000, Amazon announced that they considered their customer
>list to be their own property and would be sold to any buyer should the
>company be sold or split up or whatever.

Can't recall where but I'm sure I read their profits were
down despite increased sales this week.

Someone in sales trying to prove it's them whose
inefficient, when cost cutting kicks in ?

--
Animal


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Chris Greville  
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 More options Jul 29 2006, 6:29 pm
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From: "Chris Greville" <chrisgrevi...@noo.spam.hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:29:45 +0100
Local: Sat, Jul 29 2006 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...

"Chris U" <pressedpork.animal.spamt...@nojunk.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
message news:0qtlc2togb7hrmp42aodh3b79nhpubk5a9@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:38:14 GMT, Oswald Glinkmeyer
> <glink2...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>In September 2000, Amazon announced that they considered their customer
>>list to be their own property and would be sold to any buyer should the
>>company be sold or split up or whatever.

> Can't recall where but I'm sure I read their profits were
> down despite increased sales this week.

> Someone in sales trying to prove it's them whose
> inefficient, when cost cutting kicks in ?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/26/amazon_post_hits_profits/

"Amazon shares fell sharply in after hours trading after the retail giant
posted a big drop in profits.

Net sales grew 22 per cent to $2.14bn in the second quarter ended 30 June
2006, but operating income fell 55 per cent to $47m. Changes to accounting
for foreign currency made up for $24m of the shortfall."


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DGDevin  
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 More options Jul 30 2006, 4:33 am
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From: "DGDevin" <dgde...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:33:16 GMT
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Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...
"Chris U" <pressedpork.animal.spamt...@nojunk.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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> Can't recall where but I'm sure I read their profits were
> down despite increased sales this week.

They've been investing a lot to expand into new areas which has helped pull
down their profitability.

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Oswald Glinkmeyer  
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 More options Jul 30 2006, 3:15 pm
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From: Oswald Glinkmeyer <glink2...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:15:23 GMT
Local: Sun, Jul 30 2006 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...
Oswald Glinkmeyer <glink2...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> I got really nasty with Amazon back in 2000.  They continually ignored
> my requests to opt-out of all of their daily advertising, even though
> I hadn't ordered from them since 1998.  Their excuse was always
> something like, "we'll you're still a customer of ours, so we need to
> send you account updates..." Hmmm.  Their account updates were always
> suspiciously advertising-looking with What's Hot, who's the newest
> author with a new release, Amazon now sells pants as well as books and
> garden tools.  Sheeze.

FWIW, here's Amazon's response to my latest nasty-gram:

>>Thank you for writing to us at Amazon.com.

As you requested, I have unsubscribed munged @compuserve.com
from our promotional mailings.  You may have already received a
notification e-mail that this has occurred.  When such actions are
taken on your e-mail id, our system automatically sends you a
confirmation e-mail for your records.

Please note that it may take several business days to process such
requests, and you may receive one or two additional e-mails before
the unsubscribe process has been completed.  We apologize for the
inconvenience.

As a rule, we send e-mail announcements only to Amazon.com customers
and subscribers who have given us their e-mail addresses of their
own accord by placing orders, subscribing to one of our notification
services, sending e-Cards, or entering one of our contests.  We have
never purchased e-mail addresses or obtained e-mail addresses from
newsgroups or other web sites, except in cases where people have
specifically asked to be notified about Internet promotions.  Each
promotional e-mail we send includes instructions on how to
unsubscribe.

For future reference, you may also unsubscribe from any of our
notification services or customer mailings online at this URL:

http://www.amazon.com/unsubscribe

Thanks again for contacting us at Amazon.com.

Best regards,

Yohan
Amazon.com Customer Service<<

So it looks like they still consider me a "customer" even though in 2000
(and again in 2001) I told them that I was explicitly *not* a customer
of Amazon, and this time, I told them once again that I would NEVER be a
customer of theirs again due to their ignoring my preferences.


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Bruce Barnett  
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 More options Jul 30 2006, 11:03 pm
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From: Bruce Barnett <spamhater113+U060730070...@grymoire.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:03:10 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...

Hmmm.
I've spend several thousand dollars with Amazon, and never got any spam.
What sort of product was bought?
Perhaps an "affiliate" is responsible?

--
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Nohbody  
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 More options Jul 31 2006, 12:58 am
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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:58:35 -0400
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Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:03:10 +0000 (UTC), Bruce Barnett

<spamhater113+U060730070...@grymoire.com> wrote:
> Hmmm.
> I've spend several thousand dollars with Amazon, and never got any spam.
> What sort of product was bought?
> Perhaps an "affiliate" is responsible?

How recently was your last purchase?

I seem to recall a tendancy for the spam to be sent to those who haven't
shopped at Amazon for a while, not recent customers.  Whether that's
coincidence or intentional (not to mention the possibility of
mis-recollection on my part) is another issue, of course.

Dan Poore
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[political] spectrum is *which* civil right(s) they think we can do
without. -- Rowan Hawthorn, in alt.callahans (2/28/05)


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Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.  
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From: "Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr." <LarryShel...@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:51:40 -0500
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Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...

I buy from Amazon sporatically and aperiodically--quiet periods of a
year or more some time.

Never saw a spam (even before heavy filtering was started) identified as
"from Amazon" or even "in Amazon's favor".  don't remember seing any
email that was not directly related to a business transaction.
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Ex turpi causa non oritur actio

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Bruce Barnett  
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 More options Jul 31 2006, 1:20 pm
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From: Bruce Barnett <spamhater113+U060730211...@grymoire.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:20:48 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Jul 31 2006 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: Mainsleazed by Amazon for first time in years...

Nohbody <l...@my.reply-to.address> writes:
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:03:10 +0000 (UTC), Bruce Barnett
> <spamhater113+U060730070...@grymoire.com> wrote:

>> Hmmm.
>> I've spend several thousand dollars with Amazon, and never got any spam.
>> What sort of product was bought?
>> Perhaps an "affiliate" is responsible?

> How recently was your last purchase?

June 3rd.
I go 6+ months without placing an order.

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