I got really nasty with Amazon back in 2000. They continually ignored my requests to opt-out of all of their daily advertising, even though I hadn't ordered from them since 1998. Their excuse was always something like, "we'll you're still a customer of ours, so we need to send you account updates..." Hmmm. Their account updates were always suspiciously advertising-looking with What's Hot, who's the newest author with a new release, Amazon now sells pants as well as books and garden tools. Sheeze.
In September 2000, Amazon announced that they considered their customer list to be their own property and would be sold to any buyer should the company be sold or split up or whatever. That was the last straw, especially since I no longer considered myself to be a customer. I wrote to them in both email and snail mail telling them I no longer was a customer of theirs and to complete remove me from their database. They said they did. Now, six years later, they've "magically" found my email address and decided to email me a spam entitled "Amazon.com recommends Lord of the Flies and more" which you will see shortly in NANAS. Stop spamming me for six years then hope I don't notice when you start again!
No wonder it's so easy to Google "spamazon" in this group.
>I got really nasty with Amazon back in 2000. They continually ignored my > requests to opt-out of all of their daily advertising, even though I > hadn't > ordered from them since 1998.
[snip]
I don't know how or why, but I've never been spammed by Amazon directly, although I've repeatedly been spammed by their "affiliates"--companies which sell via Amazon. Happily there is a fun way to get payback on these folks, namely by leaving feedback on Amazon's own website, which has several ways in which an unhappy customer can rip up an affiliate. You can review a product and mention the vendor uses spam, you can rate the vendor directly and do the same, and there are now discussion threads attached to many products where you can let your feelings be known. One such company was so upset by my actually quite mild objections to their spam in my vendor rating that the president of the company repeatedly contacted me and asked for the rating to be removed, I declined. A few months later they sent me more spam, so now their product review has a lengthly description of their marketing practices as well. With any luck that has lost them a few sales. ;^)
> I got really nasty with Amazon back in 2000. They continually ignored my > requests to opt-out of all of their daily advertising, even though I hadn't > ordered from them since 1998. Their excuse was always something like, > "we'll you're still a customer of ours, so we need to send you account > updates..." Hmmm. Their account updates were always suspiciously > advertising-looking with What's Hot, who's the newest author with a new > release, Amazon now sells pants as well as books and garden tools. Sheeze.
> In September 2000, Amazon announced that they considered their customer > list to be their own property and would be sold to any buyer should the > company be sold or split up or whatever. That was the last straw, > especially since I no longer considered myself to be a customer. I wrote > to them in both email and snail mail telling them I no longer was a > customer of theirs and to complete remove me from their database. They > said they did. Now, six years later, they've "magically" found my email > address and decided to email me a spam entitled "Amazon.com recommends Lord > of the Flies and more" which you will see shortly in NANAS. Stop spamming > me for six years then hope I don't notice when you start again!
> No wonder it's so easy to Google "spamazon" in this group.
I, too, was a spamazon customer at one time. An email to customer service with the phrase 'boulder pledge invoked' actually got them to stop.
-- Test, Jamie, Test. Just remember: It's the shiny side out.
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:38:14 GMT, Oswald Glinkmeyer
<glink2...@gmail.com> wrote: >I got really nasty with Amazon back in 2000. They continually ignored my >requests to opt-out of all of their daily advertising, even though I hadn't >ordered from them since 1998.
snip
I haven't bought anything through Spam-a-zon since 1998 myself.
I gave them a tagged email addres, and at the second spam, I removed the alias from my mail server.
I, too, got somewhat snooty with Amazon. However, all I got was "we have a right to spam you, and we will." kind of attitude.
Barnes and Noble had somewhat the same attitued for a while, but it would seem they learned better. I don't get spam from BN.
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:38:14 GMT, Oswald Glinkmeyer
<glink2...@gmail.com> wrote: >In September 2000, Amazon announced that they considered their customer >list to be their own property and would be sold to any buyer should the >company be sold or split up or whatever.
Can't recall where but I'm sure I read their profits were down despite increased sales this week.
Someone in sales trying to prove it's them whose inefficient, when cost cutting kicks in ?
>>In September 2000, Amazon announced that they considered their customer >>list to be their own property and would be sold to any buyer should the >>company be sold or split up or whatever.
> Can't recall where but I'm sure I read their profits were > down despite increased sales this week.
> Someone in sales trying to prove it's them whose > inefficient, when cost cutting kicks in ?
"Amazon shares fell sharply in after hours trading after the retail giant posted a big drop in profits.
Net sales grew 22 per cent to $2.14bn in the second quarter ended 30 June 2006, but operating income fell 55 per cent to $47m. Changes to accounting for foreign currency made up for $24m of the shortfall."
> I got really nasty with Amazon back in 2000. They continually ignored > my requests to opt-out of all of their daily advertising, even though > I hadn't ordered from them since 1998. Their excuse was always > something like, "we'll you're still a customer of ours, so we need to > send you account updates..." Hmmm. Their account updates were always > suspiciously advertising-looking with What's Hot, who's the newest > author with a new release, Amazon now sells pants as well as books and > garden tools. Sheeze.
FWIW, here's Amazon's response to my latest nasty-gram:
>>Thank you for writing to us at Amazon.com.
As you requested, I have unsubscribed munged @compuserve.com from our promotional mailings. You may have already received a notification e-mail that this has occurred. When such actions are taken on your e-mail id, our system automatically sends you a confirmation e-mail for your records.
Please note that it may take several business days to process such requests, and you may receive one or two additional e-mails before the unsubscribe process has been completed. We apologize for the inconvenience.
As a rule, we send e-mail announcements only to Amazon.com customers and subscribers who have given us their e-mail addresses of their own accord by placing orders, subscribing to one of our notification services, sending e-Cards, or entering one of our contests. We have never purchased e-mail addresses or obtained e-mail addresses from newsgroups or other web sites, except in cases where people have specifically asked to be notified about Internet promotions. Each promotional e-mail we send includes instructions on how to unsubscribe.
For future reference, you may also unsubscribe from any of our notification services or customer mailings online at this URL:
So it looks like they still consider me a "customer" even though in 2000 (and again in 2001) I told them that I was explicitly *not* a customer of Amazon, and this time, I told them once again that I would NEVER be a customer of theirs again due to their ignoring my preferences.
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:03:10 +0000 (UTC), Bruce Barnett
<spamhater113+U060730070...@grymoire.com> wrote: > Hmmm. > I've spend several thousand dollars with Amazon, and never got any spam. > What sort of product was bought? > Perhaps an "affiliate" is responsible?
How recently was your last purchase?
I seem to recall a tendancy for the spam to be sent to those who haven't shopped at Amazon for a while, not recent customers. Whether that's coincidence or intentional (not to mention the possibility of mis-recollection on my part) is another issue, of course.
Dan Poore -- About the only difference between the wingnuts on each end of the [political] spectrum is *which* civil right(s) they think we can do without. -- Rowan Hawthorn, in alt.callahans (2/28/05)
Nohbody wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:03:10 +0000 (UTC), Bruce Barnett > <spamhater113+U060730070...@grymoire.com> wrote:
>>Hmmm. >>I've spend several thousand dollars with Amazon, and never got any spam. >>What sort of product was bought? >>Perhaps an "affiliate" is responsible?
> How recently was your last purchase?
> I seem to recall a tendancy for the spam to be sent to those who haven't > shopped at Amazon for a while, not recent customers. Whether that's > coincidence or intentional (not to mention the possibility of > mis-recollection on my part) is another issue, of course.
I buy from Amazon sporatically and aperiodically--quiet periods of a year or more some time.
Never saw a spam (even before heavy filtering was started) identified as "from Amazon" or even "in Amazon's favor". don't remember seing any email that was not directly related to a business transaction. -- Requiescas in pace o email
Nohbody <l...@my.reply-to.address> writes: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:03:10 +0000 (UTC), Bruce Barnett > <spamhater113+U060730070...@grymoire.com> wrote:
>> Hmmm. >> I've spend several thousand dollars with Amazon, and never got any spam. >> What sort of product was bought? >> Perhaps an "affiliate" is responsible?
> How recently was your last purchase?
June 3rd. I go 6+ months without placing an order.
-- Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account incurs a fee of $500 per message, and acknowledges the legality of this contract.